Jimi_Hendrix
10-16 01:14 PM
The immigration debate for legal immigrants and illegal immigrants with substantial presence in the USA has been raging for 2 years now. Reforms consistently went through Senate but got stuck in the house. Last year has been most painful and has brought matters to a tipping point. Therefore, I conclude that after the elections things have to settle down - this matter cannot be up in the air any longer. Either we get formally and bitterly screwed or some relief pops out in the next 2-3 months.
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sledge_hammer
01-30 01:29 PM
The problem with him and many others including me is people like the OP, and in case you are also one of them, then we all have a problem with people like YOU!!!!!
He never claimed his wife was better than the OP. All he is saying is that his wife HAD a job, which is the minimum requirement to apply for an H-1B. He never said that converting from H4 to H1 is illegal!
Your coment that everyone is trying to improve their life is so simplistic and moronic. No one is denying you or the OP theright to improve one's life. Do so ethically!
How can you simply assume that everyone here came to the US through some bodyshopping company? How did you get your job? Was it through a consulting/bodyshopping company?
And no, he is not dividing the community. You and people like you think that every immigrant is unethical and it is an accepted behavior!
Shame on you!!!
What’s your problem man? You are mad because your wife did not get H1B/Job? What do you say to a American citizen who is saying that you took his job? It’s all part of the game. Everyone is trying to improve their life.
How can you tell your wife is better? Your wife is doing exactly the same, converting from H4 to H1B. Did she have job offer when she came to USA? You must have come through some consulting company, what kind of offer letter you had when you came to US?
Everyone is playing by the rules, otherwise we would not have been here. dont think you are the only one playing by the rules.
How can you tell he/she is representation false?
People like you are the ones who are dividing the community.
He never claimed his wife was better than the OP. All he is saying is that his wife HAD a job, which is the minimum requirement to apply for an H-1B. He never said that converting from H4 to H1 is illegal!
Your coment that everyone is trying to improve their life is so simplistic and moronic. No one is denying you or the OP theright to improve one's life. Do so ethically!
How can you simply assume that everyone here came to the US through some bodyshopping company? How did you get your job? Was it through a consulting/bodyshopping company?
And no, he is not dividing the community. You and people like you think that every immigrant is unethical and it is an accepted behavior!
Shame on you!!!
What’s your problem man? You are mad because your wife did not get H1B/Job? What do you say to a American citizen who is saying that you took his job? It’s all part of the game. Everyone is trying to improve their life.
How can you tell your wife is better? Your wife is doing exactly the same, converting from H4 to H1B. Did she have job offer when she came to USA? You must have come through some consulting company, what kind of offer letter you had when you came to US?
Everyone is playing by the rules, otherwise we would not have been here. dont think you are the only one playing by the rules.
How can you tell he/she is representation false?
People like you are the ones who are dividing the community.
apb
08-13 05:21 PM
It is a hard fact but I guess I do not want to scare anyone. If you notice some people have got their JuLY 2ND filed cases receipt # and most of them have a Notice date of 08/04/2007 (the guys who got their receipt #). This notice date is the day the Receipt was generated. So today is 08/13/2007. It seems that USCIS is delaying this process of issuing receipts as that will give them a chance to reject applications after 17th. So I guess we should brace ourselves for rejection notices also......
Raybarrone - The way one think is our choice. If there is any big master plan to delay our RN so be it. Either we can take it as it is or we can act. These kinds of pessimistic thinking helps no body.
Please help yourself by reading some PMA books.
Here is a starter
AS a man thinketh
Have some good self talk. We have to Learn to respect ourself by NOT taking any crap handed out to us. Learn to FIGHT and uplift yourself and others. A man without any reason to FIGHT has lost all battles in life. He has no hope and he cannot create any change.
And if what I say does not make any sense, please feel free to 'BRACE FOR REJECTION NOTICES...' if that helps.
Raybarrone - The way one think is our choice. If there is any big master plan to delay our RN so be it. Either we can take it as it is or we can act. These kinds of pessimistic thinking helps no body.
Please help yourself by reading some PMA books.
Here is a starter
AS a man thinketh
Have some good self talk. We have to Learn to respect ourself by NOT taking any crap handed out to us. Learn to FIGHT and uplift yourself and others. A man without any reason to FIGHT has lost all battles in life. He has no hope and he cannot create any change.
And if what I say does not make any sense, please feel free to 'BRACE FOR REJECTION NOTICES...' if that helps.
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tonyHK12
02-14 01:29 PM
Thanks indigokiwi, shrma, mp70, hx82, gcgonewild, phigi, chichannagri, ravi.shah, neil.0505, subho, Hopeful567, princeusa2006, sanatshah for your contributions. Tracker is at 6%.
Amount raised................$3,300.00
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Amount raised................$3,300.00
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calgirl
07-20 03:15 PM
Was asking in general..
If you are asking just about this thread, yes there is a spreadsheet tracking this.
If in general, i am sorry i am not aware of anything.
If you are asking just about this thread, yes there is a spreadsheet tracking this.
If in general, i am sorry i am not aware of anything.
reedandbamboo
09-13 10:12 PM
Folks
However, this one department called USCIS is literally toying with us for yrs now as if we are slaves or we are obligated to them. We dont want anyone to do us any favour. We need justice.
Friends - I have self respect and i wasn't born chanting Green Card. I AM going to face them, confront them, demand them to provide justice, if not I want them to REFUND every penny i have paid so far. If this "I AM" becomes "WE", half the battle won. TOGETHER WE STAND, VICTORY/JUSTICE FOR ALL. If you are still hesitant, you made a bad choice of choosing option 2. Please go back to option 1.
ITS ABOUT TIME.
Could you provide details on your POA (Plan Of Action) .. how are you going to go about facing them, confronting them, demanding justice? I'd be happy to pitch in.
However, this one department called USCIS is literally toying with us for yrs now as if we are slaves or we are obligated to them. We dont want anyone to do us any favour. We need justice.
Friends - I have self respect and i wasn't born chanting Green Card. I AM going to face them, confront them, demand them to provide justice, if not I want them to REFUND every penny i have paid so far. If this "I AM" becomes "WE", half the battle won. TOGETHER WE STAND, VICTORY/JUSTICE FOR ALL. If you are still hesitant, you made a bad choice of choosing option 2. Please go back to option 1.
ITS ABOUT TIME.
Could you provide details on your POA (Plan Of Action) .. how are you going to go about facing them, confronting them, demanding justice? I'd be happy to pitch in.
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11-18 12:26 PM
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gjoe
10-08 03:46 PM
A rich man had a bunch of horses and donkeys. He used some to carry the load and some he tried to breed for participating in races. He was trying something but not very effeciently.
When we have a mix of people like in this forum, you will see different people, different thoughts, ideas and talent. A leader with patience can put to use more than 90% of the resources (members), if he knows what he/she is doing. No matter how many times you ask some will never go to rallies, some will never participate in state chapters, some will never contribute money, etc. Trying to get everybody to do the same thing is never going to work. Please don't mistake me or take offence. All that I am saying is "Horse should be for races and donkeys should be for carrying the load" In no way the donkey is inferior to the horse or vice versa.
BTW I work for the goverment and I know a little bit more than what you know about it. I am not saying this to belittle you but just mentioning my opinion
Firstly, no one can shut down thoughts. They are inside your head. What I am saying is that match your thoughts with your actions, not just expression of thoughts. If you want to express your ideas and thoughts, do it in a way that its heard by people that matter. Your ideas and thoughts heard by other people like you is meaningless. If you can match ACTIONS to propogate your thoughts, by hauling your ass to Washington DC, spending some $$ out of pocket on travel to DC and meeting with a few of the 535 offices, then it matters. Otherwise your idea is not worth 2 cents sitting on forums read by people who are not legislators.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
When we have a mix of people like in this forum, you will see different people, different thoughts, ideas and talent. A leader with patience can put to use more than 90% of the resources (members), if he knows what he/she is doing. No matter how many times you ask some will never go to rallies, some will never participate in state chapters, some will never contribute money, etc. Trying to get everybody to do the same thing is never going to work. Please don't mistake me or take offence. All that I am saying is "Horse should be for races and donkeys should be for carrying the load" In no way the donkey is inferior to the horse or vice versa.
BTW I work for the goverment and I know a little bit more than what you know about it. I am not saying this to belittle you but just mentioning my opinion
Firstly, no one can shut down thoughts. They are inside your head. What I am saying is that match your thoughts with your actions, not just expression of thoughts. If you want to express your ideas and thoughts, do it in a way that its heard by people that matter. Your ideas and thoughts heard by other people like you is meaningless. If you can match ACTIONS to propogate your thoughts, by hauling your ass to Washington DC, spending some $$ out of pocket on travel to DC and meeting with a few of the 535 offices, then it matters. Otherwise your idea is not worth 2 cents sitting on forums read by people who are not legislators.
Secondly, YOU THINK that asking USCIS to follow the rules is easier than changing rules (thru legislation). That's because , you and many others like you, think of Government function as if its an IT project. Occupational hazard. That is not how the Government works. The reason they dont follow the rules is because they (1) dont care and (2) are not accountable. USCIS and its non-FIFO procedures, FBI namecheck delays, backlogs in receipting and adjudication of 140 (Atlanta PERM) etc is something that congress cannot fix. USCIS, FBI report to DHS and DOJ respectively and they in turn, report to the White House. Congress can rarely make them work better and make them answer for mistakes, as congress can only do "Oversight" hearings on them. Haul an agency or department head in front of a committee and ask questions (pre submitted). And ask them questions. Make some show on CSPAN. At the end of the day, if Administration tell congress - "GET LOST, mind your own business, this is the best we can do and we are doing it", then congress cannot do anything. Other than impeaching someone. No one is going to impeach Mike Chertoff because one of his agencies (USCIS) is not doing FIFO on something called 485 (which no one in DC knows what it is).
Congressional input rarely works. Example: Intervention of Congress during July bulletin. You know why? Because Congress HAD TO DO IT because of the uproar. I dont see any uproar and your issues like "there is no FIFO", "My PERM is stuck in Atlant for 6 months", or "I am stuck in namecheck for 4 years".
These things need lobbying the Administration. Lobbying the administration is MUCH MORE DIFFICULT and EXPENSIVE than lobbying congress. Why? Because each office of Congress has a boss that faces elections very often. Every 2 years in House and every 6 years in the Senate. Plus they have 535 offices (435 in House, 100 in senate). That means easier access. On the other hand, there is only one office heading USCIS, office of Emelio Gonzalez, and only one Michael Chertoff and only one DOJ and its FBI. So the access of more difficult and lobbying is more expensive.
When it comes to administration, you have limited leverage. Other than 2 people in the entire administration, no one is getting job by elections. The only 2 positions in this branch of Government that are elected and directly accountable to people are President and Vice President. Mike Chertoff of DHS or Emelio Gonzalez of USCIS wont lose next election coz those are on appointed positions not elected positions. Which also means that they dont have to worry about making people angry.
So you see, ASKING for good things like FIFO and Faster namecheck is great in theory. But please understand, from a civic lession viewpoint, the 3 branches of government viewpoint and then make suggestions.
Is Immigration Voice an organization that can raise 100,000 a month each month? NO. Not right now. Right now, people are busy checking their mailboxes for EAD cards. Out of 23,000 registered members, if each contribute $5 a month (equivalent to a burger, fries and coke), it is 100,000 a month. But it wont happen.
So until that happens, feel free to express your thoughts and opinions and brilliant ideas and happy forum discussion. If that's what makes you all happy and content.
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xyz_123
08-29 03:21 PM
My attorney received the receipt notice for I-485 application today.
Application was received by NSC on July 23rd.
PD - Jan 2004
Application was received by NSC on July 23rd.
PD - Jan 2004
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hiUS
09-05 09:48 AM
I actually spoke to Customer service and I got 2 very different responses.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
She was rude and did not even give me the chance to speak.
What she told is 'My case is approved and they are missing the Biometrics and I will be getting the mail to appear for the Biometrics'
...and She is not even giving me the chance to explain the scenario of uploading the Biometrics to TSC etc... (I have seen in the forums that for the numbers starting with WAC...Biometrics were uploaded to CSC and the TSC is unable to upload the Biometrics back to their system. And she told him that she will put a request to upload the Biometrics to TSC ASAP which may take 3 to 4 days)
When I tried to tell this, the answer I got is "I don't want to hear anything from you and you will be getting the Biometrics mail as we are missing"
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
She was rude and did not even give me the chance to speak.
What she told is 'My case is approved and they are missing the Biometrics and I will be getting the mail to appear for the Biometrics'
...and She is not even giving me the chance to explain the scenario of uploading the Biometrics to TSC etc... (I have seen in the forums that for the numbers starting with WAC...Biometrics were uploaded to CSC and the TSC is unable to upload the Biometrics back to their system. And she told him that she will put a request to upload the Biometrics to TSC ASAP which may take 3 to 4 days)
When I tried to tell this, the answer I got is "I don't want to hear anything from you and you will be getting the Biometrics mail as we are missing"
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mwin
08-28 01:41 PM
Looks like they are processing EAD and AP (in the mail room itself:) ) along with receipts. No point in touching the same application twice or thrice. If you get a receipt then you should also get EAD and AP:):).
It's very frustrating.. TSC is sitting on our application or what? Approx 30K application are there for July 2nd filer including NSC->TSC transfer(per old NYT report). We see reporting of 1 or 2 receipting a day then few quite days. :mad::mad::mad:
It will approx 60 days since filing and still waiting for Receipt. What a heck..
It's very frustrating.. TSC is sitting on our application or what? Approx 30K application are there for July 2nd filer including NSC->TSC transfer(per old NYT report). We see reporting of 1 or 2 receipting a day then few quite days. :mad::mad::mad:
It will approx 60 days since filing and still waiting for Receipt. What a heck..
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suavesandeep
07-20 12:17 AM
I pledge $100 for this cause also.
Would also like to thank Gopal (gsc999) for getting all the banners done and helping a lot in organizing the SJ rally.Kudos to all Noble souls in the IV Core. I think what IV has acheived is amazing and unprecedented. Also money is too small to repay all the hours and work you guys have put in.
I am sure God will bless all of you with a timely GC :). Best Wishes again.
Would also like to thank Gopal (gsc999) for getting all the banners done and helping a lot in organizing the SJ rally.Kudos to all Noble souls in the IV Core. I think what IV has acheived is amazing and unprecedented. Also money is too small to repay all the hours and work you guys have put in.
I am sure God will bless all of you with a timely GC :). Best Wishes again.
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rtarar
07-20 06:20 AM
I pledge for $100.
Great going Aman and gang!!!!
Great going Aman and gang!!!!
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krish.d.rao
12-18 06:01 PM
I too have been in this country since 1998 and have a priority date of 2004 EB-2.
The one way I cope with the endless stream of bad news from the monthly visa bulletins is by remembering that with every passing day the the reality of having a GC is getting closer and not further. Many times I have contemplated giving it all up and going back to my upper middle class comforts of good old Bangalore, but then I remind myself that I have probably endured most of the pain and quitting at this point is like walking away from a marathon with the finish line only few miles away (or maybe not).
Comapre your GC wait to a marathon and decide if you are too close to the finish line to give it up or if it is so far away that alternate avenues need to be pursued.
Admittedly DOS is moving the finish line like a baby brandishing a new toy, but lets be realistic in assuming that EB India priority dates have been pushed much further back than needed. This maybe a knee jerk reaction due to the July fiasco.
Anyways, all I am trying to say is that hang in there and dont give up. If you still feel depressed seek medical help.
The one way I cope with the endless stream of bad news from the monthly visa bulletins is by remembering that with every passing day the the reality of having a GC is getting closer and not further. Many times I have contemplated giving it all up and going back to my upper middle class comforts of good old Bangalore, but then I remind myself that I have probably endured most of the pain and quitting at this point is like walking away from a marathon with the finish line only few miles away (or maybe not).
Comapre your GC wait to a marathon and decide if you are too close to the finish line to give it up or if it is so far away that alternate avenues need to be pursued.
Admittedly DOS is moving the finish line like a baby brandishing a new toy, but lets be realistic in assuming that EB India priority dates have been pushed much further back than needed. This maybe a knee jerk reaction due to the July fiasco.
Anyways, all I am trying to say is that hang in there and dont give up. If you still feel depressed seek medical help.
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Zeb
08-02 09:46 AM
Guys,
If we r landing by road and as we dont have address and we give our friends address, right?
So do we have to give address as
My Name
C/o; Friend's name
Friend's address
Or we just give
Friend's Name
Friend's address
Please anyone can throw some light on the issue.
Thanks in advance.
Just give your name and address of your friend. My brother received my card exactly after four weeks.
If we r landing by road and as we dont have address and we give our friends address, right?
So do we have to give address as
My Name
C/o; Friend's name
Friend's address
Or we just give
Friend's Name
Friend's address
Please anyone can throw some light on the issue.
Thanks in advance.
Just give your name and address of your friend. My brother received my card exactly after four weeks.
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sidbee
07-28 02:35 PM
The visecral reaction to my thread (not threat!) has only gone to prove my hypothesis - self interest is the ONLY binding factor amongst 'highly skilled' workers
No one can claim to be 'superior' by virtue of their EB classification and take refuge under the current system by preaching that "it is what it is, you accepted it, so play by it!". What a sudden love fest for a system that you cared to fix not too long ago? So, what changed? The sudden realization that there are a few erudite and vocal EB3 I's that can speak their mind and ask the difficult questions?!
Willwin is a rare gem that could see the point in my earlier thread ... Others, my post is not 'ugly', it is the reflection that you see when I hold a mirror up to you. Dont like it? Dont blame me.
Others are scared sh*it that the real deal will be revealed. Just goes to prove that if the current system goes to serve YOUR narrow self interest, you will go to no end to justify it AND defend it... even at the cost of creating deep divides amongst a larger group. Suddenly, your sense of outrage has been channeled against EB3 I's seeking a voice and not against the 'system' that you claimed to care fixing. Nice. A chameleon would be proud to welcome you to the family.
Dont worry. Sleep easy, no one is going to call Ron or a shrink. I have exposed the duplicity that defines your being ... and you can rest easy knowing that your sense of 'logical reasoning and moral outrage' cannot stand scrutiny on a simple b-board, let alone a court of law ...
Lets get together to help fix this problem. Let EB3 I's find their voice and make the appeals that they need to. They DO NOT need the approval or outrage of EB2's trying to protect their new found turf. Get the drift?
Many EB3 I's have waited 5+ years in dead end jobs and possibly single incomes only to see EB2 come hither and walk easy. No jealousy or blame. Just the hard question to those that holler back "dont complaint EB2 was meant to be a higher category" ... want to respond to a "higher calling" ... i.e., holding up your petitions to objective scrutiny not prejudiced by narrow goals?
After all, one would find that MOST work done by EB2 I's does not really require a Masters degree. Just ask a high school Java whizkid.
I rest my case and will not waste my time responding to emotional outbursts or getting dragged into the cesspit of poor logic. Got it?
Peace!
Very Well Said
No one can claim to be 'superior' by virtue of their EB classification and take refuge under the current system by preaching that "it is what it is, you accepted it, so play by it!". What a sudden love fest for a system that you cared to fix not too long ago? So, what changed? The sudden realization that there are a few erudite and vocal EB3 I's that can speak their mind and ask the difficult questions?!
Willwin is a rare gem that could see the point in my earlier thread ... Others, my post is not 'ugly', it is the reflection that you see when I hold a mirror up to you. Dont like it? Dont blame me.
Others are scared sh*it that the real deal will be revealed. Just goes to prove that if the current system goes to serve YOUR narrow self interest, you will go to no end to justify it AND defend it... even at the cost of creating deep divides amongst a larger group. Suddenly, your sense of outrage has been channeled against EB3 I's seeking a voice and not against the 'system' that you claimed to care fixing. Nice. A chameleon would be proud to welcome you to the family.
Dont worry. Sleep easy, no one is going to call Ron or a shrink. I have exposed the duplicity that defines your being ... and you can rest easy knowing that your sense of 'logical reasoning and moral outrage' cannot stand scrutiny on a simple b-board, let alone a court of law ...
Lets get together to help fix this problem. Let EB3 I's find their voice and make the appeals that they need to. They DO NOT need the approval or outrage of EB2's trying to protect their new found turf. Get the drift?
Many EB3 I's have waited 5+ years in dead end jobs and possibly single incomes only to see EB2 come hither and walk easy. No jealousy or blame. Just the hard question to those that holler back "dont complaint EB2 was meant to be a higher category" ... want to respond to a "higher calling" ... i.e., holding up your petitions to objective scrutiny not prejudiced by narrow goals?
After all, one would find that MOST work done by EB2 I's does not really require a Masters degree. Just ask a high school Java whizkid.
I rest my case and will not waste my time responding to emotional outbursts or getting dragged into the cesspit of poor logic. Got it?
Peace!
Very Well Said
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DianaSteve
03-10 12:27 AM
I believe when you get a promotion a new H1B has to be filed and that is hurdle in many aspects. Or what if the company is small and there is nothing to aspire for... like me?
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gcnirvana
05-09 12:43 AM
We had a discussion about the very topic not long ago as part of IV Spotlight Topic Series. Check out this thread http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4118&highlight=spotlight
Will someone please respond ?
Thank you.
Will someone please respond ?
Thank you.
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ghost
06-21 10:03 PM
GCBy3000,
You cannot quote a post which is day old and ask the question "what are the hearings for?". Apparently the post you are quoting is made before the news came out that the hearings will be held. Is this GC thing getting on your nerves:)
Good if it happens. But when? What makes it to say it is dead for the lawmakers. If it is likely to be dead by the end of July, then what for the hearings in the month of august before the next recession? No hopes for anything, until something is signed by the president. Any new BILL, agian the same senate, congress, commitee process and KILL it at the end. Hmmm it is just my frustration and I am not blaming anyone. I am there to fight till the end(?? I dunno where the end is though).
Now to the big question, as of today, what is the status of CIR Bill. The hearings will be held in the month of August (House Folks are planning to call in the Senate Members to testify in these hearings, which is impossible because the Senate will be in Recess in the Month of August).
So the most optimistic guess would be that the hearings will be stretched into September. In October, the Senate (I'm assuming even the house) will go on recess again for the elections in November. Once the hearings end (September) and the elections end, depending on who will control the majority, the CIR bill will be brought into day light. The reason I say this is because CIR is the only way, as of now, they are dealing with the border problem. They have no choice but to address the border problem, for security reasons.
So the CIR will be discussed again, optimistically, in december. The House will name the conference committee members and schedule the conference committee. The conference committee may meet and discuss the differences in December/January. I'm confident that both chambers of congress will be more comfortable to deal with CIR after the elections. As I have said earlier, they have no choice but come up with some kind of border security legislation out of the conference committee. Optimistically, CIR may become law by next summer and it would be helpful for us, if our provisions survive the storm.
I agree with the "Passing under the radar" philosophy put forward by IV Core Team. Our best bet is CIR compared to other explicit bills like SKIL. Besides, if I understand SKIL correctly, it benifits only folks with Master's degree in US and 3 years of work experience in a related field (I do have this). So that is not a comprehensive solution for IV members.
The anti-immigration and outsourcing sentiment is high in this country now. Also, the corporations are only lobbying for H-1B visas. They will never lobby for GC's. It's against their interests for us to get GC's. So we, the GC seekers, are on our own. IV membership is below 5000 and our contributions are around 130K. IMO, this is not enough to influence the president to sign an emergency relief bill (someone suggested this) or even lobby the Congress for explicit bills like SKIL.
The best thing that we can do as of now is to get personally involved in recruiting more members for IV. I've pledged to myself that by the end of July, I'll ensure that I'll recruit 10 new members for IV. If we can get our membership atleast close to 50000 by the end of this year then we can make some significant noise.
So our options are:
1) To wait until next summer for CIR
2) EB3 folks with PD's as 2003 or higher, try to find a new job and file as EB2
3) EB2 folks with PD's 2004 or higher, try to find a new job that'll file for GC within 6 months
4) People who are in 7/8/9 years extensions of H1-B, consult good immigration lawyers and weigh in your options. The worst case scenario for you is to stick with your current firm as long as it takes for your GC. But there is no harm in trying, you may end up finding other viable options.
Long post, huh? This GC thing is getting on my nerves too:)
Peace Out!
You cannot quote a post which is day old and ask the question "what are the hearings for?". Apparently the post you are quoting is made before the news came out that the hearings will be held. Is this GC thing getting on your nerves:)
Good if it happens. But when? What makes it to say it is dead for the lawmakers. If it is likely to be dead by the end of July, then what for the hearings in the month of august before the next recession? No hopes for anything, until something is signed by the president. Any new BILL, agian the same senate, congress, commitee process and KILL it at the end. Hmmm it is just my frustration and I am not blaming anyone. I am there to fight till the end(?? I dunno where the end is though).
Now to the big question, as of today, what is the status of CIR Bill. The hearings will be held in the month of August (House Folks are planning to call in the Senate Members to testify in these hearings, which is impossible because the Senate will be in Recess in the Month of August).
So the most optimistic guess would be that the hearings will be stretched into September. In October, the Senate (I'm assuming even the house) will go on recess again for the elections in November. Once the hearings end (September) and the elections end, depending on who will control the majority, the CIR bill will be brought into day light. The reason I say this is because CIR is the only way, as of now, they are dealing with the border problem. They have no choice but to address the border problem, for security reasons.
So the CIR will be discussed again, optimistically, in december. The House will name the conference committee members and schedule the conference committee. The conference committee may meet and discuss the differences in December/January. I'm confident that both chambers of congress will be more comfortable to deal with CIR after the elections. As I have said earlier, they have no choice but come up with some kind of border security legislation out of the conference committee. Optimistically, CIR may become law by next summer and it would be helpful for us, if our provisions survive the storm.
I agree with the "Passing under the radar" philosophy put forward by IV Core Team. Our best bet is CIR compared to other explicit bills like SKIL. Besides, if I understand SKIL correctly, it benifits only folks with Master's degree in US and 3 years of work experience in a related field (I do have this). So that is not a comprehensive solution for IV members.
The anti-immigration and outsourcing sentiment is high in this country now. Also, the corporations are only lobbying for H-1B visas. They will never lobby for GC's. It's against their interests for us to get GC's. So we, the GC seekers, are on our own. IV membership is below 5000 and our contributions are around 130K. IMO, this is not enough to influence the president to sign an emergency relief bill (someone suggested this) or even lobby the Congress for explicit bills like SKIL.
The best thing that we can do as of now is to get personally involved in recruiting more members for IV. I've pledged to myself that by the end of July, I'll ensure that I'll recruit 10 new members for IV. If we can get our membership atleast close to 50000 by the end of this year then we can make some significant noise.
So our options are:
1) To wait until next summer for CIR
2) EB3 folks with PD's as 2003 or higher, try to find a new job and file as EB2
3) EB2 folks with PD's 2004 or higher, try to find a new job that'll file for GC within 6 months
4) People who are in 7/8/9 years extensions of H1-B, consult good immigration lawyers and weigh in your options. The worst case scenario for you is to stick with your current firm as long as it takes for your GC. But there is no harm in trying, you may end up finding other viable options.
Long post, huh? This GC thing is getting on my nerves too:)
Peace Out!
TeddyKoochu
09-24 08:34 AM
my dear friend come back in reality..... to put it least harshly... �khayali pulav banana band karo� (stop day dreaming)
IV core needs to focus on real issues and obstructions which anti throw our way
I believe that you dismissed my suggestion even before considering or reading it. Mere bhai mai yaha khayali pulav nahi paka raha (Brother Iam not day dreaming). However if you don't like my suggestion / idea I respect your opinion, peace !
First and foremost you do not need approval from anti's just some of their achievements are a) Neufiled h1B memo b) higher H1B fees c) Unnecessary RFE's on H1B extensions (Client Letter etc).
Now coming to the other group Illegal�s they will never support us "Legal�s" thank god the dream act is defeated and I hope CIR with illegal amnesty never sees the light of day. Iam sure you know why EB3-I is languished in 2001 for the last 5 years it was 245I.
To cut it short anti's and illegal�s will neither ever help or support our causes.
Coming to IV efforts they are indeed applaudable, however looks like some in the group like to oppose everything.
1) Allowing everybody to file for 485 if i140 is approved, we have a few who oppose this look at the poll results. Requires change of law.
2) Recapture won't fly with the agencies they won't accept wasted visas thing that easily. Requires change of law.
3) Country cap elimination, folks from ROW will be bitterly opposed to it in the name of diversity but the reality is that it is utterly unfair, in fact EB3 ROW is cruising comfortably but they complain about spillover, some of our friends from EB3-I also talk about the spillover rule but they don't realize the fact that all spillover goes to EB3 Row and it will not be current literally even in the next 5 or maybe 10 years because EB3 ROW has steady demand unlike EB2 ROW.
4) What�s left is excluding dependents from the EB cap, nobody except for illegals and anti's will oppose it. Anyway there seems to be no Cap for Illegal�s and Anti's but one thing is for sure that they are always united.
Friends once again I wish to say that this is the only unifying idea for the legal immigrant community and this is the way everybody can see green in the next 2 years. No other idea gives green to everybody in a 2 Yr timeframe. I agree it won't fly and requires a change of law but probably its the way to go. I would give all the credit to maverick979 and deepimpact for suggesting this on another blog if I remember correctly.
IV core needs to focus on real issues and obstructions which anti throw our way
I believe that you dismissed my suggestion even before considering or reading it. Mere bhai mai yaha khayali pulav nahi paka raha (Brother Iam not day dreaming). However if you don't like my suggestion / idea I respect your opinion, peace !
First and foremost you do not need approval from anti's just some of their achievements are a) Neufiled h1B memo b) higher H1B fees c) Unnecessary RFE's on H1B extensions (Client Letter etc).
Now coming to the other group Illegal�s they will never support us "Legal�s" thank god the dream act is defeated and I hope CIR with illegal amnesty never sees the light of day. Iam sure you know why EB3-I is languished in 2001 for the last 5 years it was 245I.
To cut it short anti's and illegal�s will neither ever help or support our causes.
Coming to IV efforts they are indeed applaudable, however looks like some in the group like to oppose everything.
1) Allowing everybody to file for 485 if i140 is approved, we have a few who oppose this look at the poll results. Requires change of law.
2) Recapture won't fly with the agencies they won't accept wasted visas thing that easily. Requires change of law.
3) Country cap elimination, folks from ROW will be bitterly opposed to it in the name of diversity but the reality is that it is utterly unfair, in fact EB3 ROW is cruising comfortably but they complain about spillover, some of our friends from EB3-I also talk about the spillover rule but they don't realize the fact that all spillover goes to EB3 Row and it will not be current literally even in the next 5 or maybe 10 years because EB3 ROW has steady demand unlike EB2 ROW.
4) What�s left is excluding dependents from the EB cap, nobody except for illegals and anti's will oppose it. Anyway there seems to be no Cap for Illegal�s and Anti's but one thing is for sure that they are always united.
Friends once again I wish to say that this is the only unifying idea for the legal immigrant community and this is the way everybody can see green in the next 2 years. No other idea gives green to everybody in a 2 Yr timeframe. I agree it won't fly and requires a change of law but probably its the way to go. I would give all the credit to maverick979 and deepimpact for suggesting this on another blog if I remember correctly.
rustum
08-28 01:13 AM
Count me in this boat.
140 filed 05/25/2007 pending at NSC
485,765 and 131 filed on 07/27/2007 at NSC.
Dont know about checks as it was filed by company lawyers.
Thanks.
140 filed 05/25/2007 pending at NSC
485,765 and 131 filed on 07/27/2007 at NSC.
Dont know about checks as it was filed by company lawyers.
Thanks.
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